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A Christian Pastor Tells His Story of Rejecting the Social Justice Gospel, with Edwin Ramirez—The Alisa Childers Podcast #113

7/11/2021

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Pastor Edwin Ramirez joins me today to talk about how he bought into woke Christianity, and how it affected his ministry and family. He tells the story of God walking him out of the social justice gospel and into the true gospel.

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Kristin Johnson link

7/15/2021 08:57:48 pm

I listened to this today. It made me weep. We just recently had to leave a church we had been an active part of for 23 years because the Staff and Elders had become to woke. We, and many others in the church, tried meeting with them individually and as a group to no avail. For the protection of our kids and our spiritual growth we had to make that tough decision. I still pray for this church and as much as I miss this body, my kiss are growing in our new church home. Thank you for your podcast. May God use it to shine light in a very dark world.

Ryan Talbert

7/21/2021 12:12:02 am

Hi Alisa,

I have been blessed to find you amongst other passionate teachers of the gospel such as Mike Winger, John Cooper and always looking forward to seeing your videos. I recently was reading one of my favorite pastors, A.W. Tozer, and thought his words, though written nearly 80 years ago were so relevant to what you have been discussing recently with modern progressive thought and subjective worldview. I hope you find this chapter from his book " The pursuit of God" as fruitful as I did. Thank you for your dedication and love of the gospel.

IV Apprehending God
O taste and see.—Psa. 34:8

It was Canon Holmes, of India, who more than twenty-five years ago called attention to the inferential character of the average man's faith in God. To most people God is an inference, not a reality. He is a deduction from evidence which they consider adequate; but He remains personally unknown to the individual. "He must be," they say, "therefore we believe He is." Others do not go even so far as this; they know of Him only by hearsay. They have never bothered to think the matter out for themselves, but have heard about Him from others, and have put belief in Him into the back of their minds along with the various odds and ends that make up their total creed. To many others God is but an ideal, another name for goodness, or beauty, or truth; or He is law, or life, or the creative impulse back of the phenomena of existence.

[Pg 50]These notions about God are many and varied, but they who hold them have one thing in common: they do not know God in personal experience. The possibility of intimate acquaintance with Him has not entered their minds. While admitting His existence they do not think of Him as knowable in the sense that we know things or people.

Christians, to be sure, go further than this, at least in theory. Their creed requires them to believe in the personality of God, and they have been taught to pray, "Our Father, which art in heaven." Now personality and fatherhood carry with them the idea of the possibility of personal acquaintance. This is admitted, I say, in theory, but for millions of Christians, nevertheless, God is no more real than He is to the non-Christian. They go through life trying to love an ideal and be loyal to a mere principle.

Over against all this cloudy vagueness stands the clear scriptural doctrine that God can be known in personal experience. A loving Personality dominates the Bible, walking among the trees of the garden and breathing fragrance over every scene. Always a living Person is present, speaking, pleading, loving, working, and manifesting Himself whenever and wherever His people have the receptivity necessary to receive the manifestation.

The Bible assumes as a self-evident fact that men can know God with at least the same degree of imme[Pg 51]diacy as they know any other person or thing that comes within the field of their experience. The same terms are used to express the knowledge of God as are used to express knowledge of physical things. "O taste and see that the Lord is good." "All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces." "My sheep hear my voice." "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God." These are but four of countless such passages from the Word of God. And more important than any proof text is the fact that the whole import of the Scripture is toward this belief.

What can all this mean except that we have in our hearts organs by means of which we can know God as certainly as we know material things through our familiar five senses? We apprehend the physical world by exercising the faculties given us for the purpose, and we possess spiritual faculties by means of which we can know God and the spiritual world if we will obey the Spirit's urge and begin to use them.

That a saving work must first be done in the heart is taken for granted here. The spiritual faculties of the unregenerate man lie asleep in his nature, unused and for every purpose dead; that is the stroke which has fallen upon us by sin. They may be quickened to active life again by the operation of the Holy Spirit in regeneration; that is one of the immeasurable benefits which come to us through Christ's atoning work on the cross.

[Pg 52]But the very ransomed children of God themselves: why do they know so little of that habitual conscious communion with God which the Scriptures seem to offer? The answer is our chronic unbelief. Faith enables our spiritual sense to function. Where faith is defective the result will be inward insensibility and numbness toward spiritual things. This is the condition of vast numbers of Christians today. No proof is necessary to support that statement. We have but to converse with the first Christian we meet or enter the first church we find open to acquire all the proof we need.

A spiritual kingdom lies all about us, enclosing us, embracing us, altogether within reach of our inner selves, waiting for us t

Jason

7/21/2021 04:24:27 pm

I want to share this on FB with quotes. I hope you will add transcripts soon!

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A Christian Pastor Tells His Story of Rejecting the Social Justice Gospel, with Edwin Ramirez—The Alisa Childers Podcast #113

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