Thanks for your input Alisa. I've read Redeeming Love a few times, but have not seen the movie. It's been a while, but the message I remember from the book was one of learning to lay down one's pride and fear in order to return to God, fully trusting in his goodness and love. I think you're probably right that it misses the point of the book of Hosea, but still has a good message of returning to the Lord. The book (among others she has written) is very graphic though, and while it helps the reader relate to the characters I'm not sure that it's necessary of appropriate.
What you tell is true...
Alisa This is a story about healing. God’s redeeming love. Unconditional love. In a time such as this I believe we need this healing truth out there. We are living in a fatherless world. The way men treat women and the way women let men treat them is part of this fatherlessness. Not to mention those of us who were abused. God is restoring this fatherless world back to Himself. I read the book 5 years ago and wanting to find the name so as to purchase several copies of it. I believe hurting young girls and ladies are soon going to be a huge ministry. God saved me and loves me but He also used this book to help heal me and when I saw this movie I still received words from God to continue His healing in me. This movie may not be for everyone but there sure is healing , a ministry, God’s redeeming love in it
Thank you for your wise discernment on this, Alicia. I read this book about 10 years ago, shortly after coming to the Lord. Everyone always tries to give you books to read, as I'm sure you know, and this author was highly recommended. I thought it was good, but I was absolutely shocked at what I was reading. I struggled through it and kept having to remind myself that it is a "Christian" author just using real-life, adult themes to get something important across. As a more seasoned Christian now, I know that it was most definitely the Holy Spirit pressing me to just put the book down.
I find it incredible how you can slap a "Christian" label on something, truly, almost anything, and everyone will flock to it despite the warnings. Anyway, just my two cents!
This is really true. Some people use the "Christian" label for wrong reasons, I guess primarily for their personal gains. This is evident in the music scene. People labeling their songs as Christian knowing that the audience is big. Really important for God's people to ask for Holy Spirit's guidance.
Yes! I read this book about 6 years ago. It was given to me by other Christian women and was highly praised. Most of the way through I was thinking I really don’t need to be reading this. I finished the book and felt like it did not portray Hosea as it is written in the Bible. When IO discussed the book with the other ladies they were horrified that I was so critical of the lack of Biblical truth found in these pages.
The book was excellent and stays true to the book of Hosea. The mainstream movie world will take what they want from it and make what they want to make in the end, unfortunately. Since it’s not made by people who want to emphasize the Biblical story, I don’t expect it to be Biblically accurate. But that doesn’t mean I will avoid seeing it necessarily. I will remember the amazing redeeming love God has for us as I read my Bible—especially the story in the book of Hosea. I don’t depend on the movie industry to do that for me.
Great commentary. Regarding the "Chew and spit" question I'd also like to point out the Marvel does not claim to be Christian wheras this movie is claiming to be a retelling of Hosea. When we are having worldview conversations with our children we can teach them by gleaning what is true from the secular world view. But when we are having conversations about Biblical matters there is no "spitting out the bones" from bad or false teaching.
A comment I posted on a friend's thread in Facebook.
I have not seen the movie. From the description this lady Alisa Childers presents it doesn't sound like something men ought to be checking out let alone women. The fundamentals of the book of Hosea is God communicating to his prophet how bad He hurts because of Israel's wanderlust decisions. Hosea by experiencing the same awful pain would be able to share such feelings with the people of Israel in hopes they would have an epiphany moment, since God had not yet established a mediator between humankind and Himself.
"Steamy scenes" are going to accomplish that narrative? Right, and Santa Clause knows when you're sleeping! In the words of one of my favorite comedians, "Ladies, men are simple! All we want to see is something naked!" - Jeff Foxworthy.
The Apostle Paul in the book of Galatians lays out a list of 18 things belonging to "Works of the Flesh"! I personally don't think it's ironic that the first 2 items he mentions is adultery, and fornication. Adultery is a married man or woman having sex outside their marriage. Fornication is a single man or woman having sex without being married. "Steamy Scenes" are going to show you God's Heart? Makes about as much sense as 'Bible Grand Theft Auto'! Again, I've not seen the movie. But it sounds like a first-class A number 1 TEMPTATION! Here's what Jesus' brother James has to say about that.
"...every man (mankind - which includes women) is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth SIN: and sin when it is finished, bringeth forth DEATH. DO NOT ERR, my beloved brethren." James 1:14-16.
Want to put yourself on Satan's ground---You know, the "roaring lion seeking whom he may devour"? Like they verbalize here down south. "Go head! You goan get ett!"
Alisa, thanks for this episode! I’m a 68 year-old man, married for 50 years to my High School sweetheart and I agree with you completely! I and my wife both gave our hearts and lives to Jesus on April Fool’s Day, 1973 - and have walked with Him since then. We’ve gone through several different “Christian fads,” over the decades and every time keep coming back to the Bible as our reference point and lens through which we attempt to view life. I no longer call myself a Christian, but instead claim to be a follower of Jesus. Too much baggage with the Christian moniker.
As I have listened to your podcast over the past couple of years, I’ve loved the way you and your guests continue to point back to Jesus. And I love your heart as you kindly and graciously - but firmly disagree with “the other gospels.” I haven’t seen the movie Redeeming Love and after hearing your Apple podcast today won’t be seeing it either. I fight to keep garbage out of my mind and have come to the point that I don’t watch movies/TV shows or read books that contain any sex (gratuitous or “redemptive”) or cursing. I don’t see how that type of “entertainment” allows me to mirror the One in Whose Image I’m made. While you don’t often say it directly, it seems you constantly point people to their identity in Christ. When I understand who I am in Him, it influences and informs every other decision. And when that identity is misunderstood or simply unknown, it creates the environment in which poor decisions are made. Thank you for your work and your art in the way you ask questions and address issues that too many others brush aside as too tough to handle!
I recently found your podcast and am loving it! Thank you for doing what you do. I heard about the blog you’ve been doing on Hosea and I came here to your website to read it but when I click on the “start here” link, I can only find the comments on it. Is there a way I can get to your first blog post on Hosea?
I can’t see any post here?
Looking for the beginning of the Hosea blog. It's not clear how to reach it.
Thanks so much. Diane